harp: (Blokes or Girls?)
I'm so glad I believed [livejournal.com profile] static_pixie back in '08 or wheneverthehell she called it, for she was the first person I knew to call it. It was the "she looks like Shane" comment that really sold me on it, even more than the comments she made about kissing Dakota.

I guess this means I am now legally obligated to like Kristen Stewart. I can deal with that, I guess.

Date: Thursday, July 28th, 2016 09:34 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] theidolhands.livejournal.com
As a member of the gay community, it troubles us when people put halos on people's heads just for having the claim of homosexuality. It's as absurd and prejudice as disliking someone exclusively for the same reason.

Date: Thursday, July 28th, 2016 10:45 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] harpsi-fizz.livejournal.com
Expardon me, but I'm an FTM as well as asexual aromantic, so I'm part of the LGBT community as well.

And who the heck said I'm hanging a halo on her head? Because I said I'm legally obligated to like her? I'm allowed to like shitty people. Do you know how many not-so-great people I like? How many outright despicable people I like? Me liking someone doesn't mean automatic halo.

Date: Thursday, July 28th, 2016 11:02 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] theidolhands.livejournal.com
You're not "obligated" to like someone just because they're gay. Just as you shouldn't be obligated to dislike someone for being gay. The point of gay rights is to get EQUAL rights, not to be special, to be the same, A SHEER LUXURY in society, which means there is good and bad in everyone.

I do not dislike that actress, nor adore her, but her sexuality is not a motivation for any sort of idol worship either way. Plenty of gay people are rotten and dislike one another, our sexuality has nothing to do with us requiring special attention from gay or straight people. I've tolerated these sorts of imbalances for a while and I've absolutely had people like me better or worse when they discover my gender and or sexuality; it's childish and I've had enough. We're PEOPLE.

I am not someone's new best friend because they decided I'm trans (which I'm not, but it's a common assumption due to my innate androgyny). It's not a better feeling than being rejected. It's still smacks of classism and cliques. It smacks of what I've stood against. And actually, I've had an easier time winning people over who disliked me for my gender/sexuality/amorphous-ness MORE than a person who wanted/needed me to be a certain type of "special" and discovered I was not interested in forming such a clique with them. That surprised me more in the past than it does now. I didn't grow up needing a herd, so I didn't see that mentality initially.

The point is, I should no more have to proclaim myself gay to get friends then I should have to proclaim myself straight. Because, really, one is not a friend or an ally if one is doing that. It's not cute. It's not funny. I know, I'm such an idealist.

Lastly, I've had people from the gay community, especially recently, not cut me the slightest bit of slack for that similarity (which is NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS). Gay people can be rotten to other gay people and they may not give a rat's ass in their hearts about oppression beyond their own. Not really. It becomes "virtue signaling" instead (a trend not unique to gay people, though definitely a current problem in society as a whole).

Date: Thursday, July 28th, 2016 11:09 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] theidolhands.livejournal.com
Look, I like you, I've exchanged a lot of words with you in the past and that's why I'm being honest. I'm on your side regardless as a human being.

And I'm not holding such a small post against you (or whatever), it's just a real bone of contention for me. I realize it would be a lot easier to just shut up, but I've done that for years now.

If my points don't gel, well, I accept that, but they're part of my life struggle.
Edited Date: Thursday, July 28th, 2016 11:13 pm (UTC)

Date: Saturday, July 30th, 2016 01:38 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] harpsi-fizz.livejournal.com

With all the hatred and nastiness in the world, one would think that any sort of love/liking in the world would be welcomed. There are worse reasons to like someone.


You think I want to like her? I was having a blast making fun of her expressionless face and the fact that she starred in one of the worst things invented by humans. Call me immature, call me childish, call me whatever you want, but before you do, consider this- I'm a dark skinned transgender mentally ill person who has a very very hard time interacting with people. I don't even have friends up here where I live, at least not ones that are offline. I'm extremely isolated; the only person I talk to is my therapist once a week. So when I see some small thing in a celebrity that I can identify with or connect with, my mind automatically latches onto it. It's just what happens to me. You know those people from Amy's Baking Company that went viral? I saw that episode and when she mentioned she has four cats, I instantly found it impossible to dislike her. Even after seeing how horrible she was, even though it would've been fun to enjoy her meltdown, I couldn't do it. It's what my brain does. You don't have to forgive me for it, but just know that it's an involuntary reaction that comes with the territory.

Edited Date: Saturday, July 30th, 2016 01:40 pm (UTC)

Date: Thursday, July 28th, 2016 10:33 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] barsukthom.livejournal.com
Harp has flying squid in zir's banner. Any arguments are invalid.

Date: Thursday, July 28th, 2016 10:47 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] harpsi-fizz.livejournal.com
Now if only you'd go with me to ONTD_Creepy on Saturday so we can make the FFA Glorious once more.

((Also, holy shit, are you psychic? How did you know I secretly like being given gender neutral pronouns? It's something I don't tell most people. Weird.
Edited Date: Thursday, July 28th, 2016 10:49 pm (UTC)

Date: Thursday, July 28th, 2016 11:12 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] theidolhands.livejournal.com
Because it's the modern trend and all over tumblr. An easy assumption to make.

I actually have to tell people not to call me "gender queer" since I did not ask for that label and it's not really my intent. I'm just being myself as I was reared to be in an American society where you're supposed to be able to do that. It's an upstream attitude these days. I should give up, but...I thought we were entitled to our own feelings, I thought that was the whole point of the middle-class (mostly cis female) uprising on these matters.

Date: Friday, July 29th, 2016 03:18 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] barsukthom.livejournal.com
I... um,thought your passion for GNP's would be obvious? (of course, obvs to me is opaque to others, and sadly, vice versa. Le Sigh)

Date: Tuesday, August 2nd, 2016 11:04 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] barsukthom.livejournal.com
Speaking of the Good Old Days, I'm trying to come up with some good filk for a Nightmare Before Christmas/Man of la Mancha crossover.
"A Nightmare of La Mancha /la Monsta"
For I am I Don Hor'rote
The Lord of La Monsta
My destiny screams and I go!

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