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I just got finished reading the 5 part series "Archie Gets Married" in which he first marries Veronica, then Betty (CORRECTION!). I knew it wouldn't last; the creators don't have the guts to make Archie make a final decision. I also knew that if they were going to pander to the audience, they'd make him marry Betty, the clear favorite.
The Pitch
They did a great job with the pitch. We were presented in this "what if?" series with ARCHIE MARRIES VERONICA! first. If it had been him marrying Betty first, people would have believed in its permanence more readily for one and, for another thing, nobody would have paid much attention. "It's about time" would be it. Or "Oh, is Betty having a fever dream?" This was an attention grabber. "He did what?!?!?! Is he an idiot or does he just hate God?!"
The Stories
In A/V, the story focused mainly on Archie and Veronica with everyone else having fallen on hard times. Reggie can't get a job, Betty's struggling, Lord knows what Jughead is doing... but that's all background stuff.
Betty's definitely given less actual time with Archie in her story. Understandably so! They used up most of the good plot on Veronica and didn't have anything left. This was why other couples got a lot of focus in the story. Everyone seems to have found peace, including Big Moose.
The Couples
First off, Jughead/Midge? Could they have made it any more clear that they were just looking to put Jughead with someone? Midge really was the only choice. Cheryl has fallen off of the face of the earth and Big Ethel would be too predictable for a story that already has two very popular couples (Betty/Archie, Veronica/Reggie). And Nancy...
Don't be stupid. She's black, remember?
Jughead and Midge just felt fake. Then again, so did Archie and Betty. I really tried to enjoy it, tried to feel their love and feel happy to see what I've wanted since sixth grade. I just couldn't. The second comic was rushed with barely any scenes of them being romantic (where as Veronica got tons of those). Even the first story focused more on Archie gearing up to be engaged to her.
Come to think of it, Archie and Veronica felt fake, too, but that was probably because even the creators of the story don't buy their relationship. I mean, they did all the things couples in love do. They looked the part and Veronica uttered not one bitchy word. She didn't even shout at Archie! I kept waiting for her to, though. I kept waiting for the other shoe to drop as it were.
The only believable couple in the series was Reggie and Veronica for some reason. And their engagement and marriage was depicted in all of twenty panels tops. Their wedding was total bullshit, though. Veronica would never have her actual marriage performed by an Elvis impersonator in Vegas and never in the dress she was married in! Jesus Christ, how skanky can you get?! Stay classy, Ronnie.
The gaffs
This is more the fault of the time constraints (and Veronica eating up most of the good story) but the Coopers and the Andrews were much less involved in Betty and Archie's lives than the Lodges and Andrews were in Veronica and Archie's lives. It seems highly unbelievable that this would be the case, especially given how much Mr. Lodge hated Archie. Especially, too, given that the Andrews would probably have an easier time getting along with the Coopers, who, aside from coming from similar socioeconomic backgrounds, are much closer in age.
Also, do Betty and Archie even talk? Their twins are born and Archie asks Jughead and Midge to be the godparents. Then Betty goes and asks Veronica to be the godmother to "little Betty". So if the parents die, the twins are going to be separated or (since Veronica was single at the time) was Veronica supposed to go live with Jug and Midge? Or the other way around, I guess.
Finally, way to give Betty two parts to the story and Veronica three. I get it- you ran out of story for her and didn't want to just copy-pasa the same story but superimpose Betty over Veronica. Really, though, couldn't you have waited a little until you had two solid story lines so that both girls could have equal time?
On the other hand, making Betty and Archie share their engagement and wedding story with a bunch of other story lines and goings-on made it more legitimate somehow. It was more like a normal story, not a super special big deal. We got to see how everyone in Riverdale was doing...
OH! WAIT! Speaking of which! That bit with Grundy/Weatherbee Sven/Beasley was laying it on too thick. Does everyone have to get hitched? I understand! Betty and Archie being together makes the world a better place with sunshine and rainbows, but come the fuck on! That's Rowling-style right there, that Noah's Arking Business. And did the creators realize what they've done by putting that image out there?
Let me lay it out for you:
Mr.Svesen/Miss Beasley Rule 34.
DDDD:
I'm being too critical. Old folks need lovin', too. And all in all, it was a nice series. Really! I even found myself enjoying Veronica/Archie. And seeing Betty pregnant with Archie's babies was great.
Speaking of which (and of Rowling-ing), Archie's semen seems to be designed for making twins. Mercifully, at least one of the babies looks like the mother. I thought it was a little annoying the way the kids are carbon copies of the parents, though. What, they couldn't switch hair color even? Make the girls redheads and the boys brunette/blonde like their mothers?
And when're we getting to see Part Six: Archie Marries Jughead?
I don't even ship Betty/Veronica, actually! I'm dull and traditional- I like Betty/Archie and Veronica/Reggie. Oh, and Jughead/Hamburger. As it ought to bloody be!
Think I slightly over-did it on the water for Betty, though. Don't worry- she's laughing. I promise.
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The Pitch
They did a great job with the pitch. We were presented in this "what if?" series with ARCHIE MARRIES VERONICA! first. If it had been him marrying Betty first, people would have believed in its permanence more readily for one and, for another thing, nobody would have paid much attention. "It's about time" would be it. Or "Oh, is Betty having a fever dream?" This was an attention grabber. "He did what?!?!?! Is he an idiot or does he just hate God?!"
The Stories
In A/V, the story focused mainly on Archie and Veronica with everyone else having fallen on hard times. Reggie can't get a job, Betty's struggling, Lord knows what Jughead is doing... but that's all background stuff.
Betty's definitely given less actual time with Archie in her story. Understandably so! They used up most of the good plot on Veronica and didn't have anything left. This was why other couples got a lot of focus in the story. Everyone seems to have found peace, including Big Moose.
The Couples
First off, Jughead/Midge? Could they have made it any more clear that they were just looking to put Jughead with someone? Midge really was the only choice. Cheryl has fallen off of the face of the earth and Big Ethel would be too predictable for a story that already has two very popular couples (Betty/Archie, Veronica/Reggie). And Nancy...
Don't be stupid. She's black, remember?
Jughead and Midge just felt fake. Then again, so did Archie and Betty. I really tried to enjoy it, tried to feel their love and feel happy to see what I've wanted since sixth grade. I just couldn't. The second comic was rushed with barely any scenes of them being romantic (where as Veronica got tons of those). Even the first story focused more on Archie gearing up to be engaged to her.
Come to think of it, Archie and Veronica felt fake, too, but that was probably because even the creators of the story don't buy their relationship. I mean, they did all the things couples in love do. They looked the part and Veronica uttered not one bitchy word. She didn't even shout at Archie! I kept waiting for her to, though. I kept waiting for the other shoe to drop as it were.
The only believable couple in the series was Reggie and Veronica for some reason. And their engagement and marriage was depicted in all of twenty panels tops. Their wedding was total bullshit, though. Veronica would never have her actual marriage performed by an Elvis impersonator in Vegas and never in the dress she was married in! Jesus Christ, how skanky can you get?! Stay classy, Ronnie.
The gaffs
This is more the fault of the time constraints (and Veronica eating up most of the good story) but the Coopers and the Andrews were much less involved in Betty and Archie's lives than the Lodges and Andrews were in Veronica and Archie's lives. It seems highly unbelievable that this would be the case, especially given how much Mr. Lodge hated Archie. Especially, too, given that the Andrews would probably have an easier time getting along with the Coopers, who, aside from coming from similar socioeconomic backgrounds, are much closer in age.
Also, do Betty and Archie even talk? Their twins are born and Archie asks Jughead and Midge to be the godparents. Then Betty goes and asks Veronica to be the godmother to "little Betty". So if the parents die, the twins are going to be separated or (since Veronica was single at the time) was Veronica supposed to go live with Jug and Midge? Or the other way around, I guess.
Finally, way to give Betty two parts to the story and Veronica three. I get it- you ran out of story for her and didn't want to just copy-pasa the same story but superimpose Betty over Veronica. Really, though, couldn't you have waited a little until you had two solid story lines so that both girls could have equal time?
On the other hand, making Betty and Archie share their engagement and wedding story with a bunch of other story lines and goings-on made it more legitimate somehow. It was more like a normal story, not a super special big deal. We got to see how everyone in Riverdale was doing...
OH! WAIT! Speaking of which! That bit with Grundy/Weatherbee Sven/Beasley was laying it on too thick. Does everyone have to get hitched? I understand! Betty and Archie being together makes the world a better place with sunshine and rainbows, but come the fuck on! That's Rowling-style right there, that Noah's Arking Business. And did the creators realize what they've done by putting that image out there?
Let me lay it out for you:
Mr.Svesen/Miss Beasley Rule 34.
DDDD:
I'm being too critical. Old folks need lovin', too. And all in all, it was a nice series. Really! I even found myself enjoying Veronica/Archie. And seeing Betty pregnant with Archie's babies was great.
Speaking of which (and of Rowling-ing), Archie's semen seems to be designed for making twins. Mercifully, at least one of the babies looks like the mother. I thought it was a little annoying the way the kids are carbon copies of the parents, though. What, they couldn't switch hair color even? Make the girls redheads and the boys brunette/blonde like their mothers?
And when're we getting to see Part Six: Archie Marries Jughead?
I don't even ship Betty/Veronica, actually! I'm dull and traditional- I like Betty/Archie and Veronica/Reggie. Oh, and Jughead/Hamburger. As it ought to bloody be!
Think I slightly over-did it on the water for Betty, though. Don't worry- she's laughing. I promise.
Comment it; Discuss it
Your own Archie ships?
D'you or did you like Archie Comics?
Gimmicks
Should I do an All Requests Post?
Touch your elbows- are they cool to the touch or warm right now?
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Date: Thursday, March 11th, 2010 11:59 pm (UTC)From:I guess we're just looking at the 'romantic' aspects of the characters, and Archie chasing after Veronica because of chest-monster-like lust "because she's sexy" (to quote Harpsi-fizz) rings a bell of accord with Harry as he was in the last two books.
However, what harpsi-fizz said about Veronica going after Archie "only when he shows an interest in Betty" certainly doesn't apply to Ginny; even she isn't that bad! :-)
Given as how canon!Hermione never displayed any romantic interest in Harry at all I guess Betty is even more distant from the attempted parallel with HP. My dim recollection was that she was always there as a friend to Archie, helping him, like Hermione did for Harry, whereas Veronica was much more strictly and obviously in the "girl to lust over" slot, so it was that 'supporting friend' thing which appealed to me there. But it's been a long time since I read an Archie comic, and very few of them at that.
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