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I'm so happy October is here! Best month ever! Iunno what I like about it, but I have a feeling it has a lot to do with the moving or the letter O or the creeeeeeepy or the Halloween. Or the Scorpio, the pumpkins, the Orange, or the pretty fall colors. Either way I'm gonna...

~ Finally mail out the October Surprise (wish me luck, loves)
~ Continue learning ASL (I can do yes, no, name, like, dislike, and most of the letters)
~ Mooooooooooooove
~ Meme this journal, meme it inside out
~ Visit [livejournal.com profile] ontdcreepy a lot more
~ Get fearless


Some old art that I drew with a pencil in 2007, re-found, and colored digitally but forgot to put up. Art with pencil first + Scan + digi color = <3

In the meantime, you want to be the second commenter on my journal. You do.

Oh- and who wants to pick an episode of the 1995/2000 remake of The Outer Limits, watch it on Hulu with me and discuss it?
(I love the episode "First Anniversary" so much)

Edit:
Unexpected accidents and deaths having occurred during the test, the Ebonites—who are, actually, a peaceful and honorable alien civilization—eventually ask for such an immoral and inhuman experimentation to end at once, but nonetheless fail in preventing one last man to be fatally killed...
-Wiki synopsis of the episode Nightmare

I was killed once! But it wasn't fatally.

Date: Friday, October 1st, 2010 12:09 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] icanhaspancake.livejournal.com
I just have to butt in here in regards to the ASL thing. I'm pretty sure you didn't mean it this way, but it comes across as pretty offensive to paint deaf people as these underprivileged losers who you're going to step down off your pedestal to "hang out" with. As someone who is damn near fluent in sign language and has several deaf/hearing impaired friends, I can tell you that not only are they not underprivileged, but often times they have an easier time with things than people who can hear.

So if you're looking for a group of people to feel "privileged" around (which I think is a pretty icky thing to do with any group of people; why not just hang out with people because you like them, rather than dehumanizing them and making a social experiment out of it?), I think you're going in the way wrong direction. To be perfectly honest, a lot of the deaf people I know are perfectly happy with how they are and they usually don't care one way or the other if a special shiny ~hearing person decides to hang out with them.

ASL is just like any other language. You might as well be posting, "Hey, I'm going to go learn Spanish so I can feel privileged," because it's just that level of bizarre. Just because they might not be able to understand you doesn't mean they live lives of hardship and woe.
(on that note, deaf people do use the internet, you know. i hope you made sure that no one on your flist is hearing impaired before you started putting them down.)

Maybe you just have some misconceptions about the deaf community in general? One of my deaf friends from high school was one of the most popular boys there. He was on the football and basketball team, and made some of the best grades. He could read lips and communicate so well that most people forgot that he couldn't hear. The point is that it didn't matter that he was deaf, because we all saw him as a person first and foremost. And I can tell you for certain that not a single one of us was sitting around feeling all privileged in his presence; if nothing else, a lot of us were wishing we could be more like him.

TL;DR, I'm pretty sure you have good intentions, but this came off as a little insensitive and extremely judgmental, and I just couldn't ignore it anymore.

Date: Friday, October 1st, 2010 12:38 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] harpsi-fizz.livejournal.com
That's fine if it's how you felt. If that's how you understood it, then that's how it would look to you.

Date: Friday, October 1st, 2010 03:39 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] icanhaspancake.livejournal.com
That is how I understood it, but since I know you and know that more than likely you didn't mean any harm, I was hoping for a little clarification? I'm not saying you need to explain yourself to me, I'm just genuinely curious about your train of thought here.

Date: Friday, October 1st, 2010 11:24 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] harpsi-fizz.livejournal.com
Sure thing. I'll PM you, ok?
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Date: Friday, October 1st, 2010 03:48 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] icanhaspancake.livejournal.com
Acknowledging that he had good intentions was my way of showing that I was not trying to pass judgment on him. As I said in my above comment, I'm curious about his train of thought with this, since deaf people are not an underprivileged group.

The "cool kid" thing was merely an example, and you've totally missed my point by fixating on that one little thing. I never said, "Oh yay, they needed a champion, and now they have one!" It was more along the lines of that they're a mixed group, with people who do perfectly well for themselves and even outshining "normal" people, and they also have their individuals who struggle. But that said, I don't see how lowly and underprivileged fits in.

And I'm not sure where you're even coming from with the racist thing, since I didn't say anything like that and that's not even related to the topic at hand.

At any rate, I don't appreciate your hostile tone when I was simply trying to start a discussion. Even if you misunderstood my comment, I would assume that [livejournal.com profile] harpsi_fizz knows me well enough by now to know whether I'm attacking him or not, and that's really my only concern here.

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